chika seikatsusha no te asobi

itsudoko nanashi shisan 2008/10/14 07:18 nn ? ronshi ni fumei na ten gaattanode oshie tekudasai .

> shi wo ketsui shite jibun no saishi wo ki no bou de tataki koroshi ta mono sura , nakanaka jisatsu hadekinyanodayo .

( dakara shikei ganbou no hanzaisha ga dete kuru ) toiu ronshi to rikai shimashitaga ,

> fumufumu , konnen dakede shikei ganbou ni motodu ku satsujin ha 3 ken ne . tashika , 2007 nen niha satsujinjiken kensuu ha sengo saitei no 1199 ken dasoudakara ,1% nimo mita nyatohaieru .

shikei ganbou gaarukadouka fumei no suuchi mo fukume teno satsujin suuji ga jouki no kensuu ( 1199 ken ) desuga ,

> shikamo , koko 10 nen hodo renzoku shite jisatsusha ha 3 bannin ijou nandaro ?

jissaini jisatsu shita nin ha (3 bannin ijou ) to age teirasshaimasu .

kono 2 tsuno suuji wo hikaku suruto ,( shini taito omotte ite , sorewo nanraka no shudan de jissaini koudou ni utsushi ta nin ) no uchiwake ha , shikei wo mezashi te hanzai wo okashi ta nin yorimo , jisatsu wo sentakushi ta nin no houga yuui ni ( sukunakutomo 1 keta ijou ) ooi kotoninarimasu .

hontou ni ( nakanaka jisatsu hadekinya ) nodeshouka . shikei ga , jisatsu sezuni shine ru nigemichi nanodatoshitara , soreyori kurushi ihazuno jisatsu yori ooku no nin ga nige komu nodeha
naideshouka .

yokuwakarimasendeshita .

NANo 2008/10/14 08:58 satsujin ganbou wo motsu ningen gasorewo koudou ni utsusu baai , jisatsu deareba shouheki tonarunoha ( jibun wo korosu tejun ) dakeni
narukeredo , shikei to iu keibatsu niyoru ( kansetsuteki jisatsu ) wo nozomu baai , kyokkei ni atai suru ( tasatsu / tasha shougai ) wo
soutousuu kurikaesu / tsumiage rutoiu , jin dashiku chiryoku . tairyoku . gijutsu wo motome rareru hadoru gaarundaga
waka ranaimonokana > itsudoko nanashi shisan

shikei ga ( jisatsu sezuni shine ru nigemichi ) dearukotoha machigai naikeredo , sono onkei niazukaruniha
sorenarino ( chikara ) ga hitsuyou nandayone . tokoroga , jisatsu jikkousha no taihan ha , kodoku ya kunou , zetsubou niyoru
suri hetta seishinjoutai niyotte , tasha wo sasshou suruni itaru chikara ga kokatsu shiteiru (kigou) yueni jisatsu no kurushi miwo
koe teshimau men gaaru , toiu supairaru mo sonzai surudarou .

itsudoko nanashi shi 2008/10/14 19:28 NANo san , resu arigatougozaimasu .

ossharu toori desu .
gensei ni kibou wonakushita jisatsu shitai nin nitotte , yuukei mukei no shouheki niyotte habama reteiru ( shikei to iu keibatsu niyoru kansetsuteki jisatsu ) ha , jissaini hatotemo konnan na koui dearuto , watashi mo omoi masu . sonotame , hon entori no ronshi nitsuite iwakan wo kanji , komento sasete itadai ta shidai desu .
NANo sanha , donoyounio kangae desuka ?


mou 1 ten .

> shikei ganbou niyoru tasatsu no sonzai ha gachi daro

toiu ten ha , jitsurei wo age te itadai teirunodesono toori dato omou nodesuga , korewo shikeiseido ni taisuru sansei . hantai ni karame runiha ,( shikeiseido ganaku , shikei ninaranaikarakoso satsujin wo okasu ) toiu hantai jirei nitsuitemo chakumoku shi , sorezoreno suuji wo sashihiki shita kekka womotoni ron wo tenkai suru hitsuyousei wo kanji mashita .

zentaiteki na ronshi toshiteha ,( shikeiseido no umu niyoru hanzairitsu , tokuni kyouakuhanzai no jougedou ha toukeiteki niha kakunin dekinai ) toiu daizentei gaaritsutsu ,( shikashi shikei gaarukotode , shikei ganbou kara satsujin wo okasu nin ga jissaini iru koto ha tashika dakara , shikeiseido haarubekidenai ) toiu ronritenkai ga hitotsu no hashira dato rikai shiteimasu .
shikashikono ronpou wosonomama mochii ruto , 2 danraku meni oite ( shikashi shikei ganaikotode satsujin wo okasu nin ga jissaini irukotoha tashika dakara , shikeiseido haarubekida ) toiu ketsuron wo nobe rukotomodekimasu .
2 tenme no iken ga kuuron de , 1 tenme no iken ga seikoku wo ite irutosurunaraba ,( shikei ganbou ni kiin suru tasatsu no jitsugen kazu ) ga ( zettai shikei nihanaranaikotoniyoru tasatsu no jitsugen kazu ) wo uwamawatte iruhazudesu . soudenakereba , kono ronten ha 1 tsumeno daizentei wo tsuki kuzusu tokuiten nihanarazu , seizei ( docchinishitatokorode taishi te kawa ranai ) toiu ketsuron nishikanarimasen .

( shikeiseido no umu niyoru hanzairitsu no jougedou ha toukeiteki niha kakunin dekinai ) toiu daizentei wo mochii ru ijou ,( shikeiseido no sonzai ni kiin shita , shikei ganbou niyoru tasatsu = kansetsuteki jisatsu ) no jitsuzai womotoni shikei wo hitei surunara , sono kansetsuteki jisatsu no jikkou kazu ga , hantai no kankyouka niokeru hantai no ito niyoru tasatsu no jitsuzai kazu wo yuui ni uwamawatte irukotomo doujini shimesu hitsuyou gaarimasu .
denakereba ,( shikei ganbou niyoru tasatsu ) no sonzai mo , hanzairitsu ni toukeiteki ni yuui na sa womotarasu youin dehanaikotoga meikaku ninari ,( shikashi shikei ganaikotode satsujin wo okasu nin ga jissaini irukotoha tashika dakara , shikeiseido haarubekida ) toiu ron ga , doutou no settokuryoku womotte hanron ni mochii rareteshimaimasu .

tikani_nemuru_M 2008/10/14 21:37 > itsudoko nanashi shi

tatoeba infuruenza no yobou sesshu wo kangae temimashounya .

kokoni , yobou sesshu wosureba kanzen ni yobou dekiru akusei no infuruenza gaattatoshimasunya . bosuu ga ichiman nin toshitokouka .
yobou sesshu woshinakattara 100 hitojini ni , yobou sesshu wo itta ra fukusayou de X hitojini nuto katei shimasunya .
kokode ,X> 100 dattaramochiron'o hanashi ninaranya .
shikashi ,X< 100 deareba yobou sesshu wo okonau imi gaarukatoiuto , sou kantan dehanya .
X wo zero nisurukotoha fukanou datoshitemo , wazawaza rou wo tori kosuto wokakete yobou sesshu wo okonau wakedesukaranya .
X> 10 moareba , sono yobou sesshu ha kiken dakara okonau bekidehanaito oosawagi ninarukoto uke ai nyanne .

ningen no kokoro sei no ippantekikeikou toshite ,( shizen )( guuzen ) niokoru risuku niha kyoyoudo ga ooki ku , jin'iteki na koui niokeru risuku niha kyoyoudo ga chiisa inodesunya . de , konoatariha rinrigaku demo giron sareteirukotonyanne . sabaibaru . rottari deguguttemitekudasainya .
kono kanten karasuruto , shikeiseido ga hanzai yokushi nioite attouteki na pafomansu womotarashitesura , sono seido niyotte muko no mono ga korosa rerutoiu risuku wo jijitsujou otteirunodakara , sono sonzoku ha gigi ni fusa rerukotoninarimasunya .

kiga mui tarakono ronten de tsuika entori woagemasunya .

itsudoko nanashi shi 2008/10/14 22:51 komento arigatougozaimasu .

> ningen no kokoro sei no ippantekikeikou toshite ,( shizen )( guuzen ) niokoru risuku niha kyoyoudo ga ooki ku , jin'iteki na koui niokeru risuku niha kyoyoudo ga chiisa inodesunya . de , konoatariha rinrigaku demo giron sareteirukotonyanne . sabaibaru . rottari deguguttemitekudasainya .
> kono kanten karasuruto , shikeiseido ga hanzai yokushi nioite attouteki na pafomansu womotarashitesura , sono seido niyotte muko no mono ga korosa rerutoiu risuku wo jijitsujou otteirunodakara , sono sonzoku ha gigi ni fusa rerukotoninarimasunya . sono sonzoku ha gigi ni fusa rerukotoninarimasunya .

go shiteki itadai ta toori , sabaibaru . rottari wo gugu tte haiken itashimashita . shikashi , houchikokka nioite shikeiseido ganaitoiu ( shizen demo guuzen demonai jin'i no koui ) niyotte ,( shikei ga nai kara satsujin wo okasu toiu muhousha no sonzai niyori ) muko no mono ga korosa rerutoiu risuku gaaru ten ni kanshi te , nanra no genkyuu gaarutoha omoe masendeshita .

kono kanten karasuruto , houchikokka niokeru shikeiseido no haishi ga hanzai yokushi nioite attouteki na pafomansu womotarasutoshitemo , sono seido niyotte muko no mono ga korosa rerutoiu risuku wo jijitsujou otte irunodakara , sono sonzoku ha ( shikeiseido no sonzai niyoru hanzai yokushikouka no shuchou totomoni ) gigi ni fusa rerukotoninarimasu .

satsujin ha byoushi demo rousui demonainodesukara ,( shizen )( guuzen ) niokoru risuku dehanaku , honken ni taishi te en'eki subekidenai ronri dearuto kangae masu .

ud 2008/10/15 00:14 anrakushi seido no daitai toshiteno shikeiseido toiu imi deha , sonzai wo mitome temo yoi nodeshouka .

NANo 2008/10/15 09:16 ( shikei ganbou niyoru tasha shougai ) to ( shikei ga sonzai shinaikotoniyoru tasha shougai ) toiu taihi ha , naruhodo
kyoumibukai kousatsu tsuka mo shire masenne > itsudoko nanashi shisan .

shikashi ( shikei ganbou niyoru hanzai ) ga ( tatta ichirei demo ) sonzai surutoiukotoha , toukei izen ni yuuryo subeki
mondai dearuto kangae rarenaideshouka . gyakuni , shikei ni zettai naranainodakara hanzai wo okasu toiu shinri ha
hata shitearunodarouka ? toiu mondai mo nebukai deshou . dochiraniseyo , kokka niyoru satsujin kyoyou no zehi wo
kentousu ru saini ha , toukei izen ni , sorega noizu ya tokuiten dearouto ichirei demo ( jitsugai ) ga genzon surunodeareba
kaerimi rubeki ten ha hijouni ooki idarou , tosurunoga watashi no tachiba desu .

itsudoko nanashi shi 2008/10/16 17:37 NANo san , resu arigatougozaimasu .

un . shikei toiu batsu ni rifujin sagaarutoshite , soreha satsujin toiu tsumi ga tanin nimotarasu rifujin sawo uwamawaru mononandeshouka ..

douiu douki de jisshi sareyouga , tasatsu toiu kouijitai , somosomo korosa reru gawa kara miru todoushiyoumonaku rifujin na shingai koui dato omou nodesu .

shikei ganbou wo motsu nin niaru nichi totsuzen sakkuri korosa reru jibun wo souzou suruto tashikani aho rashiidesuga , kotonaru shichueshon , tatoeba yakuza no juugeki sen ni makikoma rete shin dato souzou shitatokorode , ito sezu jinsei wo danzetsu saserareru aho rashisani sa nadoarihashimasen . korosa reta gawa nitotteha hitoshi ku mugendai no rifujin sagaarudakede , jibun wo koroshi ta yatsu gasono atodo unaruka , tatoeba shikei ninarukadoukanante samatsu na hanashi desu . sorede shisha ga ikikaeru wakedemoarimasenkara .

kono tasatsu toiu koui no rifujin sawoisasakademo yawara geyoutosurunara , tasatsu no hassei kensuu sonomonowo osae komu shikaarimasen . shikeiseido gaaru nippon de ( shikei ganbou niyoru satsujin ) toiu rifujin sagaikutsuka jitsuzai shiteirukotoni igi haarimasenga , sono hokano kesu no tasatsu ga motsu rifujin sayori omoku miru beki riyuu monaideshou .

shitagatte ,( shikei ganbou niyoru satsujin ) toiu jirei ni rui suru tasatsu yobigun no douki wo torinozoku tameni shikei wo haishi shitatoshitatoki , tasatsu toiu rifujin sano souryou dearu satsujin kensuu ( shikei = kokka niyoru satsujin tosurunara , kokoni gassan sarerudeshou ) gadou eikyou wo ukeru ka .( jitsugai ) ga fue runoka heru noka . kokoga juuyouna ronten ninaruhazudesu . 1 wo eru tameni 10 wo ushinau kanousei ganaitoha ie masen .

( shikei ganbou niyoru tasatsu no jitsuzai ) ha , shikei wo haishi surebakouiu rui no tasatsu ha fusege ru kanousei gaaru , toiu hitotsu no jirei dehaarimasuga , shikei no umu de toukeiteki na sai gamirarenai zentei wo mochiite iru ijou , korewo kiten nishite shikeiseido no kaihai ni genkyuu surunohaisasaka muri suji dehanaideshouka .

NANo 2008/10/18 16:18 itsudoko nanashi shisan

watashi no hyougen ga warui nodesuga , watashijishin ha shikeiseido ni ( hantai na fun'iki ) dehaarimasuga , tashika na shinnen toshite
hantai shiteiruhododehaarimasen . sansei suruniseyo , hantai suruniseyo , dochiranishitemo rifujin nanodakedo
toriaezu shikeiseido ni hantai suru ( saido ) ni ri gaarisouna kehai wo kanji teiru , toiu sutansu desu .

toukei nimotoduita ronshou wo okonau niha , shinpyousei no takai deta ga ( senmonka ga sagashi tedesae ) naiyounanode
kono mondai wo ronji ruto shiben tekini narazaruwo ena inodesukara , sorezoreno sutansu gaatte touzen desu .

> korewo kiten nishite shikeiseido no kaihai ni genkyuu surunohaisasaka muri suji dehanaideshouka .

doui shimasu .
tadashi ( koredakedeha ) to iu ten nitsuitedesu .
shikeiseido no kaihai nitsuiteha , motto tamenteki na kousatsu to , dekireba konkyo tonaru deta , saraniha
shukensha no soui ga hitsuyou ninarudeshou .

itsudoko nanashi shi 2008/10/21 23:42 NANo san :

naruhododesu . watashi kojin mo , kyokkei = shikei dearu hitsuzensei gaarutoha , mi notokoro omoi masen . shikei wohajimetosuru keibatsu ha , shudan deatte mokuteki dehaarimasenkara .

kihonteki ni , okashi ta tsumi yori ukeru batsu ga akiraka ni karui gendai nioiteha , tanin wo korosu ijou no tsumi wo okasu nin gainakereba shikei ninaru nin moinaiwakenanode , tsumi wo okasu gawa no shinjou to jinseisekkei womo omoi yareba , tsumi wo okaso uto omowa nai ((kigou) jiboujiki ninaranaiyouna ) kankyou tsukuri ga , shikeiseido no umu yorimoyohodo juuyoudo ga takai kotodato omoi masu . koreha , burogu shu youno ikano go shiteki no toori desu .

> gutaiteki niieba nozomu mononiha koutoukyouiku ga hoshou sare kakusa ga sukunaku minshutekii na
> komyunitei ga kinoushi teiru shakai deareba , jisatsu mo tasatsu mo gekigen suruwakeda
> nya . hanzai wo hera shitakerebakorega oudou . riro moshikkarishiteirushi
> toukeiteki nimo akiraka danya .

shikashi , kouiu chakuganten ni kidui teinagara , sorewo genbatsu ka sanseiha ( bunchuu deha ( shikei daisuki kun tachi ) to hyougen shiteiruto omoi masuga ) no shakaiteki kosuto ni kansu ru furiraido no houben dato yayu surunoha , amarini kenkyou tsuki kai dato omou nodesu .

kono ronten ha , hantaihoukou nikojitsukerukotomo kanou desu .

shikeiseido ni sansei denai katagata ga , koushita kyuuchi niaru nin tachiwo sukuu kane wo oshi mukarakoso , shikei ni shosa reruyouna koui wo okonau nin tachiga genjitsu ni araware te ( zouka shite ) shimai , katoitte , souitta nin tachiwo shikei tosurunoha hijindouteki nanode , naraba shikei nohouwo haishi seyo ( shikeiseido no haishi niyotte kosuto wokakezuni jindouteki na manzokukan wo eta i = furiraido shitai ), to shuchou surushikanakunarunodehanaidesuka ?
( batsu no hinin michi sei wo tonae ru houga , tsumi notobacchiriwo kuratta higaisha gadonoyouna hijindouteki na higai wo ootta kamadewo kouryo ni ire te itadai teirunokadouka , shoushou shinpai dehaarimasuga )


kouyatte netto uede kimagure katsu suki houdai ni hougen shiteiruyouna watashi noyouna jinshu nitotteha , shisei no ichikokumin toshite , jibunjishin ga higai wo ukeru kanousei wo kyokuryoku osa eru houkou ni ron wo yuudou shitaitoiu yuuwaku ni kara remasu . shikashinagarasono kanten deha , shikeiseido no umu toiunohakanari yuusenjun'i ga hikui mondai desu . sono riyuu ha , hanzairitsu no zougen ni taishi te shikeiseido no umu ga atae ru eikyoudo ga hikui karadesu . koushita , amari honshitsuteki denai ronten dakarakoso , kakujin no shugishuchou toiu sutansu ga meikaku ninarunokamoshiremasenne .

tada , soreto kiduki nagara honshitsu ni fure zu , chuuritsuteki na jijitsu womotoni ippou no ronten ni yuuri na rojikku wo tenkai shite tahou wo ron muzukashi , go jishin no tenkai suru ronten ga yuusendo ga takaku ri ni tekitta mondai dearukanoyouni furu mau shuhou ha , fea nayarikuchidehanaito omoi masu .> burogu shu sama

NANo santonoyaritoriwo hete , nandaka jibunjishin no kangae wo seiri surukotogadekitayouna kiga shimasu . arigatougozaimasu .

free_jamal 2008/10/23 00:56 shikei haishi zettai sansei !
iken wo nobe sasetemoraimasu .
1. shikeiseido ha dare notame , nanno tamearunodeshouka .
shihaiken karagoku ippanjin madeha , shikeiseido ha kyouakuhanzai wo boushi surutamedearishikataganai , tokangaeteimasu . shihaiken to ippanjin no kangae wo kubetsu surubeki koto hatomokakudesu . sate , mondai nanoha hontou ni kyouakuhanzai mono ha tekihatsu . shobatsu sareteirukadoukadesu . go zonji niyouni , ji kou seiken no koizumi gekijou no samazamana akusei saku niyotte ooku no hitobito ha shoku wo utta ri , hi seiki shain ha 300% amariwo shimeshi te kurushi i seikatsu wo oshitsuke raretari , fukushi ni sakugen , soshite ,8 nen amarito iu nenkan no jisatsusha ( sensouchuu no iraku yorimo ooi ) ga tsuduke tari , nadoninarimashita . minshuu no zaisei no fusei kakutoku to muda atsukai no mondai mokoreni fukuma remasu . fudousangyou kai to manshon tsukuri no tebiki to hoka gyoukai no fusei mondai momatatomokakudesu . deha , korerano kyouakuhanzai mono wo darega tsukama ete , shobatsu shiteirunodeshouka . sorehaari ena i koto , kangae rarenai kibou dehanaideshouka . soreha , korerano renchuu niha kenryokusha to kin gatsuiteiruirukaradesu . deha ketsuronteki ni iu to , shikeiseido ha tanni yowai mono no tekihatsu notameniarunodehanaikato omoi masu .
2. shikeiseido wo naku shita baai ha shakai no anzen hadou kakuho sareru . aruiha , shakai no futan ha fue ru koto nitsuite
somosomo shihonka . kouzouteki seiken ha shakai no anzen wo kangae teimasen . kensatsu no sonzai hasono jijitsu no shou desu . keisatsu no yakuwari ha tanni shihai kaikyuu to kigyou . ooganemochi chiwo mamoru koto dearu .
wasure tehaikenai koto ha , tanjunna jijitsu dearu , gin gen dare demo hanzai . hitogoroshi wosurutame umare te kuru wake dehanai koto desu . kono tanjunna jijitsu ha masukomi no sennou niyotte kabusa reteimasu . kojin . shuudan ha ningen wo koroshi tehaikemasen ! shakai hanzai no sonzai ha shihaiken no seiji . keizaiteki na seisaku no shippai no shou dearu . touzen , sono naka de sekinin ha kojin nidehanaku shihaiken niarimasu ! jinrui no nozomi ha jiyuu . byoudou . ningen rashii shakai desu . sonna shakai mokuhyou no jitsugen notamesorenarino shisutemu wo tsukuru bekidesu . sonna shisutemu wo ashita karademo jitsugen dekina kurai sozai ha ima demo ooi ni sonzai shiteimasuga .